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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Oct 12, 2004 7:12:02 GMT -5

Post by Ambidexter on Oct 12, 2004 7:12:02 GMT -5

2V3:
Î êàêèõ äûðàõ â Internet Explorer è Outlook Express ìîæåò èäòè ðå÷ü, åñëè ïî ïîðíîñàéòàì è ïðî÷èì çëà÷íûì ìåñòàì, ãäå ìîæíî âèðóñ ïîäöåïèòü, ÿ íå ëàçèþ, à ñêðèïòû â ïèñüìàõ áëîêèðóþòñÿ? ß íå ðàçáèðàëàñü, êòî ýòî äåëàåò - Norton Antivirus èëè OutPost - íî ôàêò îñòà¸òñÿ ôàêòîì. Ñïåöèàëüíî ýêñïåðèìåíòèðîâàëà ñ ïèñüìîì, ïðè êëèêå íà êîòîðîå àêòèâèðóåòñÿ ñêðèïò. Òàê âîò, íå àêòèâèðóåòñÿ

Ïðî àñþ òîæå íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòíî:

óòèëèòû, âûòàñêèâàþùèå èç íèõ ïàðîëü

Òî åñòü òðîÿíû? Òàê âåäü òðîÿíà åù¸ ïîäñóíóòü þçåðó íàäî. Îïÿòü æå, ñïàñ¸ò àíòèâèðóñ è îñòîðîæíîñòü â ÷òåíèè ïèñåì.

Ïðî P2P.
BitTorrent - ñîãëàñíà, íå î÷åíü óäîáíî. Íàäî ñíà÷àëà íàéòè ñàéòû-ïîèñêîâèêè, à ïîòîì íà ýòèõ ñàéòàõ èñêàòü òîððåíòû. Òåì íå ìåíåå èìåííî ÷åðåç íåãî ÿ êà÷àëà Sailor Moon Live Action. Îáèäíî òîëüêî, ÷òî ñêîðîñòü îòäà÷è áîëüøå ñêîðîñòè ïðè¸ìà.
KaZaA - íå çíàþ, âûìåðëà îíà èëè ó ìåíÿ ãëþêè, íî ôàéëû êà÷àëèñü-êà÷àëèñü, ÿ óñïåëà âûòÿíóòü ïåðâûå 11 ýïèçîäîâ TMNT-2003, à ïîòîì - ðàç! - è âñå þçåðû êóäà-òî ñëèíÿëè. Áûëî ýòî ãäå-òî ïîëãîäà íàçàä, è äî ñèõ ïîð äîêà÷àòü íà÷àòîå íå ìîãó.
eMule - ìîùíûé, íå ñïîðþ. Íî ó ìåíÿ ïî÷åìó-òî âå÷íî lowid è ïåðèîäè÷åñêè IP blacklisted (íàâåðíîå, ïîòîìó ÷òî âñÿ ñåòü ïîä îäíèì IP). Òåì íå ìåíåå îí åäèíñòâåííûé, ãäå ÿ íàøëà õîòü êàêèå-òî ñåðèè "×îêíóòîãî". Ïðàâäà, åñòü îíè áóêâàëüíî ó äâóõ-òð¸õ þçåðîâ, ê êîòîðûì íåâîçìîæíî ïðîáèòüñÿ, ò.ê. î÷åðåäü 500 ÷åëîâåê. Òàêèìè òåìïàìè, êàê ñåé÷àñ, ÿ èõ ñêà÷àþ ëåò çà ïÿòü

Õîòÿ, åñëè èíòåðåñóåò, ìîãó äàòü ïðÿìûå ed2k-ëèíêè íà ýòè ýïèçîäû - âäðóã àêòèâíûì P2Pùèêàì ñ òîëñòûì êàíàëîì ïîâåç¸ò áîëüøå?

Ïðî IRC â êà÷åñòâå ôàéëîîáìåííèêà áóêâàëüíî êðàåì óõà ñëûøàëà. Ãäå ïðî ýòî ìîæíî ïðî÷èòàòü?
ß åù¸ ñëûøàëà ïðî DC++ - ýòî ÷òî òàêîå?

- "Íå" ñ ãëàãîëàìè ïèøåòñÿ ÷åðåç ïðîáåë.

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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Oct 12, 2004 7:37:34 GMT -5

Post by V3.Varyen on Oct 12, 2004 7:37:34 GMT -5

Âñ¸ ðàâíî, ñîâåðøåííî ñëó÷àéíî ìîæíî íàòêíóòüñÿ... Ñàì âèäåë - çàõîäèøü íà ñàéò, è àâòîìàòè÷åñêè ñêà÷èâàåòñÿ è çàïóñêàåòñÿ èõ ïðîãðàììêà =)
À Outlook òåì áîëåå... Ïðîñòî, êîãäà çàìåòèøü óæå ìîæåò áûòü ïîçäíî.
Òåì áîëåå, îïÿòü æå - äðóãèe ïðîãðàììû ÃÎÐÀÇÄÎ óäîáíåå è áûñòðåå!

eMule: Lowid ýòî èç-çà NAT. À ïðî Blacklisted - õìì, íå ïîâåçëî çíà÷èò....

DC++ ýòî òîæå p2p ñåòü. Ïîæàëóé, îñîáîãî âíèìàíèÿ íå çàñëóæèâàåò.

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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Oct 12, 2004 8:01:45 GMT -5

Post by Ambidexter on Oct 12, 2004 8:01:45 GMT -5

Íå ïðåäñòàâëÿþ, êàê ìîæåò âûãëÿäåòü ñêðèïò, êîòîðûé ñàì çàëü¸ò ïðîãó íà êîìïüþòåð ïîñåòèòåëÿ è çàïóñòèò å¸

Òî åñòü ïðåäñòàâëÿþ, íî íåóæåëè àíòèâèðü íå ðóãàåòñÿ, ôàéðâîëë íå áëîêèðóåò, áðàóçåð íå âûäà¸ò ïðåäóïðåæäåíèå?

ß êàê-òî èçìåíèëà ïðåäñòàâëåíèå îäíîé èç ïàïîê â Ïðîâîäíèêå, äîáàâèâ òóäà ñòðî÷êó, êîòîðàÿ çàïóñêàåò ïðîãðàììêó (ìíîþ æå íàïèñàííóþ), êîòîðàÿ ïåðåêðûâàåò âñå îêíà è òðåáóåò ââîäà ïàðîëÿ. Òàê âîò, Àíòèâèðóñ âñòðåïåíóëñÿ, ìîë, âèæó XML-ýêñïëîéò, âû óâåðåíû, ÷òî åìó ìîæíî äîâåðÿòü?
Íåóæåëè â îïèñàííîé òîáîé ñèòóàöèè îí íå ðåàãèðóåò?

Ñ ñåòêîé íàøåé íàì âîîáùå íå î÷åíü ïîâåçëî. Îíà íà õàáàõ, âñå äðóã äðóãà âèäÿò. Íèêàêîé òàéíû ïåðåïèñêè

Òàê ñ lowid, çíà÷èò, íèêàê íå óäàñòñÿ áîðîòüñÿ? Ñêîðîñòü îòäà÷è óâåëè÷èòü, êîëè÷åñòâî ðàñøàðåííûõ ôàéëîâ..? Íà ÷òî, êñòàòè, âëèÿåò ýòîò id low/high?

- "Íå" ñ ãëàãîëàìè ïèøåòñÿ ÷åðåç ïðîáåë.

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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Oct 12, 2004 8:48:41 GMT -5

Post by V3.Varyen on Oct 12, 2004 8:48:41 GMT -5

LowID - ñ òîáîé íåëüçÿ óñòàíîâèòü ïðÿìîå ñîåäèíåíèå +èìååøü ïîíèæåííûé ðåéòèíã, ñëåäîâàòåëüíî áóäåøü äîëüøå ñòîÿòü â î÷åðåäè. Ìîæåøü ïîïðîáîâàòü îðèãèíàëüíûé êëèåíò eDonkey/Overnet - îí ê LowID ïîëó÷øå îòíîñèòñÿ (òî÷íåå, èìåííî Overnet).
LowID - ïëîõî, HighID - õîðîøî.
(Àíëèì+HighID - Î×ÅÍÜ ÕÎÐÎØÎ!! ;D)

IE - çàãðóæàåò âñ¸ áåç âîïðîñîâ

Íåäàâíî âîîáùå îáíàðóæèëàñü êëàññíàÿ óÿçâèìîñòü - ïðè îòêðûòèè JPGa ñ áèòûì çàãîëîâêîì âîçíèêàëî ïåðåïîëíåíèå áóôåðà. Äîñòàòî÷íî áûëî ïðîñòî êóðñîðîì åãî âûäåëèòü è âñ¸

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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Oct 12, 2004 9:18:50 GMT -5

Post by Ambidexter on Oct 12, 2004 9:18:50 GMT -5

Òî åñòü ýòî òèïà ïðèîðèòåòà? Ñíà÷àëà â î÷åðåäè ñòîÿò âñå high, ïîòîì âñå low? À ÿ-òî äóìàëà, ïî÷åìó ýòî ìîé ïîðÿäêîâûé íîìåð â î÷åðåäè íå âñåãäà óìåíüøàåòñÿ ñ òå÷åíèåì âðåìåíè, à èíîãäà óâåëè÷èâàåòñÿ. Çíà÷èò, ýòî ïîòîìó, ÷òî íîâûå þçåðû ñ High ID ïðèõîäÿò? Âîò ãàäû...

Àíëèì + High ID - ýòî êëàññíî. Ó ìåíÿ òîëüêî ïåðâîå óñëîâèå âûïîëíÿåòñÿ, è òî íå ñîâñåì.
Overnet, ãîâîðèøü? Îí ñ eMule 0.26A ñîâìåñòèì â ïëàíå íåäîêà÷àííûõ ôàéëîâ?
È, êñòàòè, íåò ëè òàêîãî õàêíóòîãî êëèåíòà äëÿ eDonkey... Íó êàê KaZaA Lite äëÿ Êàçû, ÷òîáû è ïðèîðèòåò 1000 äàâàëà, è ðàçíûå ôè÷è òèïà àâòîïîâòîðà ïîèñêà?

Óÿçâèìîñòü - LOL

Äëÿ êàêèõ áðàóçåðîâ îíà îïàñíà?

- "Íå" ñ ãëàãîëàìè ïèøåòñÿ ÷åðåç ïðîáåë.

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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Oct 12, 2004 9:40:14 GMT -5

Post by V3.Varyen on Oct 12, 2004 9:40:14 GMT -5

Õàêíóòûìè êëèåíòàìè íå ñîâåòóþ ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ - îíè î÷åíü õîðîøî áëî÷àòñÿ, êàê â eMule, òàê è â BitTorrent. È âîîáùå - ñòîèò ñòàâèòü äîñòàòî÷íî áîëüøîé ïðèîðèòåò àïëîäó ïðè LowID - ÷åì áîëüøå ó òåáÿ çàêà÷àþò, òåì áîëüøå êðåäèòû.

Ôàéëû .part ñîâìåñòèìû, ìîæíî èõ èíîãäà ïåðåáðàñûâàòü ìåæäó eMulîì è eDonkey.
Ñåé÷àñ ïîñëåäíÿÿ âåðñèÿ eDonkey 1.0 - ãèáðèä Overnetà è eDonkey. Âîîáùå, êà÷àþò îíè ïî ðàçíîìó. Â îäíèõ ñëó÷àÿõ áîëåå ýôôåêòèâåí eDonkey, â îñòàëüíûõ eMule =)

Óÿçâèìîñòü â GDI, ñîîòâåñòâåííî â ýêñïëîðåå è íåêîòîðûõ äðóãèõ ïðîãðàììàõ. Íî åñëè áû îíà áûëà â áðàóçåðàõ - îíà áûëà áû â IE

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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Nov 26, 2004 12:38:44 GMT -5

Post by Ambidexter on Nov 26, 2004 12:38:44 GMT -5

Ìîæåò, íåìíîãî íå â òåìó, íî...
Ñåãîäíÿ êàêîé-òî ïðèäóðîê ïîäñåë íà ìîé IP. Âèäèìî, åãî ïðèâë¸ê ìîé áåçëèìèòíûé òàðèô. Ìåíÿ, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, èç èíåòà âûêèíóëî. ß òóò æå çâîíþ â ñëóæáó ïîääåðæêè, ãîâîðþ, òàê ìîë è òàê, êòî-òî ìîé àêêàóíò þçàåò, âîò ñåé÷àñ â èíåòå êàê ðàç îí ñèäèò, à íå ÿ, òàê ÷òî ëîâèòå åãî. ×åðåç íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ ïðîâàéäåð ñîîáùèë, ÷òî âû÷èñëèë õàêåðà è â áëèæàéøåå âðåìÿ îòêëþ÷èò åãî.
Ñîáñòâåííî âîïðîñ: ñòÎèò ëè ìíå îïàñàòüñÿ ìåñòè ýòîãî ïðèäóðêà? Èëè îí ìíå íè÷åãî íå ñäåëàåò, åñëè áóäåò âíå íàøåé ëîêàëêè (ó äðóãîãî ïðîâàéäåðà)? Èíûìè ñëîâàìè, çàùèùåíà ëè ñåòü îò àòàê èçâíå?

- "Íå" ñ ãëàãîëàìè ïèøåòñÿ ÷åðåç ïðîáåë.

V3.Varyen Àäìèíèñòðàòîð Posts: 874	Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Nov 26, 2004 17:34:08 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by V3.Varyen on Nov 26, 2004 17:34:08 GMT -5 Âíå ëîêàëêè íè÷åãî íå ñìîæåò, ò.ê. ñåòü ó âàñ NAT.
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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Nov 27, 2004 5:53:57 GMT -5

Post by Ambidexter on Nov 27, 2004 5:53:57 GMT -5

Àãà, NAT. Ñòàëî áûòü, ó íå¸ ñóùåñòâóåò åäèíñòâåííûé ïëþñ - çàùèù¸ííîñòü èçâíå ;D
Ìèíóñû - íåçàùèù¸ííîñòü âíóòðè (õîòÿ ñåé÷àñ ïðîâàéäåð òåñòèðóåò íîâûé ñïîñîá àâòîðèçàöèè, ñ ââîäîì ëîãèíà è ïàðîëÿ) è LOWID â eDonkey

Åñëè ÿ êóïëþ ñåáå ñòàòè÷åñêèé IP - ñòàíó áîëåå óÿçâèìîé, òàê?

- "Íå" ñ ãëàãîëàìè ïèøåòñÿ ÷åðåç ïðîáåë.

V3.Varyen Àäìèíèñòðàòîð Posts: 874	Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Nov 27, 2004 6:41:44 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by V3.Varyen on Nov 27, 2004 6:41:44 GMT -5 Ambidexter said: Åñëè ÿ êóïëþ ñåáå ñòàòè÷åñêèé IP - ñòàíó áîëåå óÿçâèìîé, òàê? Óãó.... Íî ÿ áû òàê ñäåëàë, ÈÌÕÎ áîëüøå ïëþñîâ
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Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Nov 27, 2004 6:52:22 GMT -5

Post by Ambidexter on Nov 27, 2004 6:52:22 GMT -5

Ñåé÷àñ ïîäóìàåì...

Ïëþñû:
- Âûñîêèé ïðèîðèòåò â ôàéëîîáìåííèêàõ
- Âîçìîæíîñòü îðãàíèçîâàòü íà êîìïå: FTP-ñåðâåð, âåá-ñàéò è ò.ï.

Ìèíóñû:
- Óÿçâèìîñòü
- Ñòàòè÷íîñòü (åñëè íàôëóäþ ãäå - ìåíÿ çàáàíÿò ðàç è íàâñåãäà)
- 5 áàêñîâ â ìåñÿö

Íåäîñòàòêè-òî ñóùåñòâåííûå

- "Íå" ñ ãëàãîëàìè ïèøåòñÿ ÷åðåç ïðîáåë.

V3.Varyen Àäìèíèñòðàòîð Posts: 874	Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Nov 27, 2004 7:36:56 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by V3.Varyen on Nov 27, 2004 7:36:56 GMT -5 Íå çíàþ.... Äëÿ ìåíÿ óæå ïåðâîãî ïóíêòà ïî ãîðëî õâàòèò, ÷òîáû ñåáå ðåàëüíûé IP äåëàòü )
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Ambidexter Îôèöåð Toons don't do normally things... Makes us so adorable! Posts: 217	Cåòåâàÿ áåçîïàñíîñòü Nov 27, 2004 7:48:52 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ambidexter on Nov 27, 2004 7:48:52 GMT -5 Ïîêà ÷òî ìíå è ñ LowID õîðîøî æèâ¸òñÿ; â êðàéíåì ñëó÷àå - ïîïðîøó äðóçåé ñêà÷àòü íóæíûé ôàéë
	Last Edit: Nov 27, 2004 7:56:50 GMT -5 by Ambidexter - "Íå" ñ ãëàãîëàìè ïèøåòñÿ ÷åðåç ïðîáåë.

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